"LOCAL councils should allow more mosques to be built in Sydney’s suburbs to help stop the spread of “underground” places of worship that could radicalise Muslim youth, NSW opposition leader Luke Foley said."
Foley’s solution is to build more mosques Jim O’Rourke The Daily Telegraph October 6, 2015
Luke Foley NSW Labor opposition leader has just achieved the same delusional state as the British Historian Dan Cruickshank as to the nature of peace and harmony the Islamic/Muslim culture in time and space will and in fact do inform in front of their very eyes yet they clearly both arrive at Cruickshank's "object-lesson" despite history and current events ignoring completely the bloodied bodies in the streets.
“It (Damascus-Syria) has seen empires and tyrants come and go; it offers a fantastic object-lesson in how people can live together creatively and in harmony. It is a wonderful city in which to be. …. a fantastic object-lesson in how people can live together creatively and in harmony" British Historian Dan Cruickshank BBC series "Cruickshank's Adventures in Architecture, Episode 5 - Connections, Syria, Damascus 2008, First aired on BBC Two in April 2008
Lets shove the Islamic/Muslim cultural derived Other body right into Dan Cruickshank (British Historian) and Luke Foley New South Wales Labor opposition leader's face as clearly they have not noticed this bloodied Other corpse and many others from the same source. Too busy protecting the guilty the Islamic/Muslim culture which created the Muslim terrorist, one of many and many more to come if Luke Foley New South Wales Labor opposition leader has his way.
"no one should attribute guilt by association for this terrible act to the Muslim community"
Sydney shooting: Malcolm Turnbull passes first test on terrorism THE AUSTRALIAN, Greg Sheridan, OCTOBER 05, 2015
Yes we should and must if this is to stop.
Social psychology determines altruistic enforcers justification authorization and methodology of dealing with in-out group boundaries driven by "categorisation engines" are determined by cultures construct of Other not the 'few' the culture creates. If the Muslim culture is not responsible and culpable for this terror who is? Unless this is the number one fact we all realise is a truth the bloodied bodies in our streets will keep coming as they continue elsewhere.
Gunman who shot dead NSW police employee was radicalised (Muslim) youth, ABC 3-10-2015
"The 7.30 program reported on Monday that it's believed a small group of men at Parramatta Mosque encouraged the 15-year-old to attack.
The teen reportedly attended a lecture by the group at Parramatta Mosque on Friday, shortly before gunning down veteran police accountant Curtis Cheng, 58, as he left work at the Parramatta police headquarters."
Mosque denies NSW shooting link Sky News 5 October 2015
Luke Foley NSW Labor opposition leader's answer make more.
"In this first tragic test, Turnbull has done well. Sadly, it is unlikely to be his last such test."
Sydney shooting: Malcolm Turnbull passes first test on terrorism THE AUSTRALIAN, Greg Sheridan, OCTOBER 05, 2015
"it is unlikely to be his (Malcolm Turnbull-Australia's Prime Minister) last such test."?
Which means more Other will die under the current policy paradigm of 'done well', how successful will the next family feel about the Turnbull wisdom and 'job well done', and the next, and the next.... for it is only going to end with either the Other cultures standing or the Islamic/Muslim culture.
This is no exaggeration one has to only look at the number of Other originally in Islamic/Muslim countries and the conditions under which those Other which still are within the space are subject to. One has to just reflect upon the genocide-holocausts Muslims perpetrate against Other even in our own life times let alone historically. One has to just reflect upon the killings already started in Australian streets.
Why should our Australian space be any different than all the rest historically, currently what is in the Islamic/Muslim codex construct of Other in Australia that is any different than elsewhere, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Kenya, Nigeria, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, .... which will inform a totally different outcome of no bloodied bodies in our streets, no massive redirection of scarce resource simply to protect ourselves from another culture within the same space this all despite the dead bodies already in our streets .......tell me what is the difference inherent in the Islamic/Muslim codex construct of Other than elsewhere?
"..it is unlikely to be his (Turnbull's) last such test." - Sound familiar?
"There’s been another mass shooting in America -- this time, in a community college in Oregon.
That means there are more American families -- moms, dads, children -- whose lives have been changed forever. That means there’s another community stunned with grief, and communities across the country forced to relive their own anguish, and parents across the country who are scared because they know it might have been their families or their children.
In the coming days, we’ll learn about the victims -- young men and women who were studying and learning and working hard, their eyes set on the future, their dreams on what they could make of their lives. And America will wrap everyone who’s grieving with our prayers and our love.
But as I said just a few months ago, and I said a few months before that, and I said each time we see one of these mass shootings, our thoughts and prayers are not enough. It’s not enough. It does not capture the heartache and grief and anger that we should feel. And it does nothing to prevent this carnage from being inflicted someplace else in America -- next week, or a couple of months from now.........
..We spend over a trillion dollars, and pass countless laws, and devote entire agencies to preventing terrorist attacks on our soil, and rightfully so. And yet, we have a Congress that explicitly blocks us from even collecting data on how we could potentially reduce gun deaths. How can that be?
This is a political choice that we make to allow this to happen every few months in America. We collectively are answerable to those families who lose their loved ones because of our inaction. When Americans are killed in mine disasters, we work to make mines safer. When Americans are killed in floods and hurricanes, we make communities safer. When roads are unsafe, we fix them to reduce auto fatalities. We have seatbelt laws because we know it saves lives."
President Obama's Statement on the Shooting in Oregon OCTOBER 1, 2015
Out of the mouths of babes.
Policy really working for the short, medium to long term? This is the flourishing life you have in store for us and our children's children.....? This is 'wisdom' this is a 'job well done' more of the same 'wisdom' more of the same 'well done' after each inevitable atrocity as there has been no policy change - the Islamic/Muslim construct of Other remains intact to frame the current and create the next generation with the exact same beliefs and values regards Other?
No culture has a right to ask such a systemic tragic price of Other cultures in the same space. When will this stop when we have run out of resources or run out of Other who can be murdered in their homes, in their streets, in their cafes, in their .....?
It is not a matter of 'educating' citizens as to their responsibilities and behaviours regards each other as individuals in Democracies which necessarily contain many cultures due to our globalized world, it is a matter of reviewing what a cultures responsibilities and behaviours regards each other culture in their same space have to be and abide by for any culture to be accepted to and remain in a Democratic multicultural space.
There is no plan B there is only holding to a line the 'many' are not responsible for the 'few' where clearly they have to be as the 'few' come from their very ranks. The whole multicultural paradigm which is supposed to inform peace and harmony which includes a culture of genocide and misogyny falls into a heap as each new victim, or just in time prevented disaster, in either direction are blamed upon Other so called 'White Supremacist' inciting, which are in the main anything but and these inept cultural gatekeepers know it, rather than the Islamic/Muslim moderate-extremist culture itself delivering the terror and the cultural gatekeepers who have overseen the whole tragedy.
"AN EXTREMIST Muslim group is holding a conference at a Melbourne university this weekend as the country reels from the shooting of a NSW police worker by a radicalised teenager."
Melbourne university hosts extremist Muslim group in the wake of Sydney shooting
news.com.au OCTOBER 4, 2015
You the political elite inclusive of our key institutions unleash a genocide construct in your midst unchecked what reflective counter construct will in time develop from the Other culture which will inevitably rise up to negate it? Cultural gatekeepers become responsible for terror in both directions and you think cultural gatekeepers inclusive of the institutions which harbor them from either side your going to be justifiably left out of either sides equation along with your fellow citizens you have purposefully put in harms way.
The word 'EXTREMIST' followed by the noun Muslim is a lie we tell ourselves and a part recognition of a 'truth'. It is a lie because it is only a Western Liberal cultural 'rational' model which allows not only Other but also those who define themselves as Muslims at a specific point in time are only able to make such an observation under the logic, justification authorisation and in particular within protection of a Western Liberal cultural 'rational' model space. But as Zaid Nabulsi points out ‘We (Muslims) have a problem’, "Wahabism has entirely replaced, and become, Sunni Islam; the two cannot be told apart anymore" but even then Zaid Nabulsi refuses to accept the cause of the 'EXTREMIST' Muslim as he perceives it Wahabism in fact has to be and is directly derived from and able to be analogised from the core Islamic/Muslim codex.
“The extremists (imams) often start by teaching people about the parts of the Qu’ran — Islam’s holy book — that have never been mentioned by their imams and then inject violent thoughts in people by misinterpreting doctrines,” he (Adudulkrep, head of the state-run Xinjiang Islamic Institute) said.
CHINA LOSING BATTLE AGAINST EXTREMIST ISLAMIC TEACHINGS, SAYS MUSLIM OFFICIAL MARCH 30, 2015
Muslim/Islamic religious leader Adudulkrep (head of the (China) state-run Xinjiang Islamic Institute) own admittance the 'selected' utilisation of text from the Muslim/Islamic Qu’ran text/Islamic knowledge by 'respected' imams when utilised to argue against the 'selected' utilisation of text from the Muslim/Islamic Qu’ran text/Islamic knowledge by 'extremist' imams does not guarantee that the 'respected' imams would win the the Muslim/Islamic Qu’ran text/Islamic knowledge argument.
In other words the so called 'extremist' imam Islamic knowledge has as much if not more justification and authority derived from the Muslim/Islamic Qu’ran text/Islamic knowledge to enable 'extremist' imams to win the argument as to what the 'true' beliefs, ethics, values of the Muslim/Islamic culture are. Adudulkrep would not have been able to make the comment above if this were not the case.
So called 'extremist' imam because logic and system analysis regards cultural 'rational' models tells us the once 'respected' imams can now be rationally accused themselves of misinterpreting the Qu’ran text and be determined 'extremists' with the so called 'extremist' imam now determined as 'respected' imams as the 'true' believers.
It is important to therefore understand determining the 'Extremist' Muslim, even by those determining themselves as Muslims, are clearly made under a 'rational' model external to the Islamic/Muslim authoritative codex itself. The demand of the dominant Chinese and Western cultural construct is the 'true' Islamic/Muslim codex constructs be determined 'extremist' for the Muslim to exist in those cultural spaces.
It is a well known psychological phenomena minority cultures adherents tend to mouth and even ascribe publicly to core ethical-moral tenets counter to their core codex categorization engines - even may deem themselves to believe they hold these values and may be reflected in their behavior but this does not stop the terror against Other being delivered for elsewhere in the cultural behavioral variance as adherence to the core cultural categorisation engine regards Other are still held and as the altruistic enforcers gain resources and political power the cultural ethical-moral mean in Others space starts to shift away from Others cultural 'rational' model and the terror intensifies.What happens as the Muslim altruistic enforcers reach resource and political thresholds of which Saudi Arabia in attaining resource and political power have been able to achieve and thereby provide the same by export of the 'true' reflection of Islamic/Muslim codex via resource and in fact political protection?
Hillary Clinton by courtesy of Wiki leaks revealed how this works in complete contrast to her public statements.
"In a December 2009 cable, leaked by WikiLeaks in 2010, then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton confirmed that Saudi Arabia remained a "critical financial base" for terrorism and that Riyadh "has taken only limited action" to stop the flow of funds to the Taliban and other such groups."
"..the kingdom's immense oil wealth has been used to underwrite the export of an extreme, intolerant and violent version of Islam preached by its Wahhabi clerics.
Go anywhere in the world--from Germany to Indonesia--and you'll find Islamic centers flush with Saudi money, spouting intolerance and hate. In 2007, Stuart Levey, then a top Treasury official, told ABC News, "If I could snap my fingers and cut off the funding from one country, it would be Saudi Arabia."
What happens in our own Western space when the Muslim communities themselves may be determined as reaching the thresholds of resource and political power to enable the altruistic enforcers to emerge what happens with these so called 'moderate' families from a Western 'rational' model perspective do they move against the altruistic enforcers whose justification and authorisation for their behavior comes as Muslim/Islamic religious leader Adudulkrep (head of the (China) state-run Xinjiang Islamic Institute) determines from the Quran itself. Are these altruistic enforcers 'extremists' from an Islamic/Muslim codex perspective if they were the logic dictates the so called 'moderate' Muslims would be able to argue against the behavoral constructs being imposed upon them. Did they, do they, more importantly can they?
"• Parents do not have the confidence to argue against the articulate and forceful activists who seek to impose their views, for fear of being branded as disloyal to their faith or their community."
Schools face new curbs on extremism after Birmingham Trojan horse affair
Patrick Wintour, Political editor The Guardian, Wednesday 23 July 2014
No these supposed Muslim moderate 'parents' did not and more importantly could not because of a "fear of being branded as disloyal to their faith" how can one be "branded as disloyal to their faith" if that "faith" justified and authorised exactly the same beliefs, and derived behavior being set by the Muslim so called 'extremist' altruistic enforcers?
Silence - for good reason 'moderate' Muslims have not even a comparative argument utilising the Islamic/Muslim codex to counter the Islamic/Muslim codex 'rational' therefore immediately this moves the so called 'moderate' Muslim to the so called 'extremist' norm which is in fact the true Islamic/Muslim cultural norm - approaching or at the status of true believer as the power of the altruistic enforcers becomes authoritatively more embedded in the Islamic/Muslim space as the Islamic/Muslim codex dictates.
Mr Ali has been recorded saying that over the course of seven years he had identified 240 'radicals Islamists' within his community (Australian) centre, 120 of whom continue to have extremist views and are seen to potentially be on a path to "extreme acts".
Mr Nawaz, who says he understands extreme Islamist groups because he was once a true believer, thinks Mr Ali's admission is a serious concern."
Eradicating radical Islam July 3, 2013, 6:18 pm James Thomas Today Tonight
The lie we tell ourselves 'EXTREMISTS' do not reflect the 'true' beliefs, behaviors of the Islamic/Muslim codex and the 'moderate' Muslims reflecting back in diminishing degree along the Islamic/Muslim cultural behavioral variance Others Western Liberal 'rational' model ethics-morals do, although it can be clearly proved once the Muslim altruistic enforcers attain the appropriate thresholds of resource and political power that reflection of Western Liberal 'rational' model ethics-morals dissipates as it has to as to do otherwise creates rational "fear of being branded as disloyal to their faith".
The part truth is this that the word 'EXTREMIST' categorises certain beliefs and behaviors of Muslims as dangerous to Other its intention to focus attention, motivation and resources to move against such constructs yet it is only part truth for it seeks to delineate what is in fact the 'true' mean of the ethical-moral Muslim behavioral variance so we do not have to confront a 'truth' cultures define Other and the methodology of how the altruistic enforcers are to manage the in-out group boundaries not the 'few' altruistic enforcers themselves.
It is the cultural whole Islamic/Muslim communities we have to hold to account for the Muslim 'EXTREMISM' for it clearly is not extreme but the 'true' belief. Until this is accepted Muslim terror will haunt our streets and the slow but building in time major schism so reflective of the streets wherever this diabolical ideology is allowed to flourish will be the torment of our children's children.... It is a legacy of an increasingly diminishing possibility for flourishing lives I will try in whatever way I can to prevent.
Data required to be collected and acted upon to prevent Other being murdered in the streets and vast amounts of wealth being wasted simply to protect ourselves from another culture within our space - Multiculturalism to realise its full potential must not allow genocide and misogynistic constructs within. A negotiated agreement between cultures is required and those not abiding by common agreed constructs of Other and women must be removed for the security of Other and women:
"A great deal of foreign policy analysis relies on social and environmental factors, or anecdotal evidence. In seeking to address this problem in a more systematic manner, we move from an investigation centered around state actors to one focused on variation in individual behavior account for the combination of social, cultural, environmental, psychological, and biological differences. Our proposed approach to the study of political violence requires the integration of methods and skills from geneticists and neuroscientists with those in the behavioral and social sciences. Specifically, we seek to introduce an approach to study political violence which : (i) quantifies the effects of genes, environments, and their interaction on behavior; (ii) identifies specific genetic and environmental contexts that lead to such behavior; (iii) develops a comprehensive model of the biological and social pathways to political violence; (iv) identifies populations under specific circumstances which pose a higher or lower prevalence for any specific genes, neurobiological or environmental mechanisms which pose an increased liability for political violence; (v) develops mechanisms to identify individuals within given populations who are most at risk for committing violence, as well as those most resistant to such action; and (vi) creates environmental responses which can mitigate risk among those individuals."
A neurobiological approach to foreign policy analysis: identifying individual differences in political violence PK Hatemi, R McDermott - Foreign Policy Analysis, 2012
Given the necessity of v above and vi above and i-iv informs a systemic cultural propensity to deliver aggression, violence and subjugation of women which is/are deemed intractable my view is vi stands only with the addition of the phrase "..and between the source culture and the Other cultures affected internal and external to the source culture of the individuals and groups informing aggressive behaviors.". With the addition of (vii) where intractable systemic aggression is emanating from a culture creates evidence based proof of such intractability of systemic behavior to frame the political will to remove the cultures capacity to inform aggression from the Public Square. If this means total removal of a cultural codex from the Public Square so be it - is one brutalized life a codex so clearly enables worth such a cultural codex remaining?
"There is no suggestion that Parramatta mosque is a problem in terms of its leadership, but it would be a happy hunting ground for recruiters," anti-terrorism expert Professor Greg Barton said.
Police turned to Parramatta Mosque long before teen gunman Farhad Jabar's shooting attack smh, Ava Benny-Morrison,October 6, 2015
Is it any wonder we have terror and the threat of it increasing in our streets as elsewhere in the Western World with delusional so called experts on cultural derived terror in charge of directing policy? Professor of idiocy.
If Islamic/Muslim categorisation engine of Other did not exist in this Islamic/Muslim Parramatta Mosque space of an institutional moral-ethical setter-enforcer to establish/reinforce belief systems, focus attention, motivate behavior, which can only be enabled by 'leadership' allowing at the very least and encouraging at the worst from a Western 'rational' perspective terror to emerge from its space - no terror against Other would have occurred from this Islamic/Muslim Parramatta Mosque.
A mosque is not a pool hall, a tennis club, a gym it has a role in setting, and reinforcing acceptance of a cultural belief system and the catgeorisation engines regards Other which are inherent in any cultural codex - some cultures constructs of Other are simply more dangerous than others.
Please Explain: Nazi (Hitler-Mein Kampf) & Muslim (Mohammed-Quran) Cultural Codex Construct of Other. Why it is One Is and One Is-Not. Yet both = "I don't mean participated, I mean observed."
Clearly the 'Leadership' of the Parramatta Mosque did not create a space where the inherent Islamic/Muslim prejudice against Other contained in the cultural codex was contradicted to the extent these 'happy hunters' could not operate nor the fellow Muslims who joined them because they understood and had already been imbued with the same construct of Other, as they had to be, which must not have been contradicted by the space they inhabited otherwise the "happy hunters" would not be there for the cognitive dissonance involved in the 'leadership' of the Parramatta Mosque promoting a counter ethical-moral construct of Other would have driven the 'happy hunters' away.
The following two parts of the sentence are clearly in social psychological terms contradictory:
1. "There is no suggestion that Parramatta mosque is a problem in terms of its leadership" 2. "but it would be a happy hunting ground for recruiters,"
Both statements cannot be true at the same time for who determines the nature of the space we inhabit if it is not our cultural defined leadership in our ethical-moral setting and enforcing institutions?
"happy" to be in such a space - really Greg Barton think?
"I find it incredible to think that a 15-year-old boy could undertake this action without any form of help or assistance or encouragement," he (New South Wales Premier Mike Baird) said."
Parramatta shooting: Student arrested from same school attended by 15yo gunman after Facebook post ABC 6-10-2015 By David Spicer and staff
I would find it "incredible" if our Australian police and military forces actually believed New South Wales Premier Mike Baird did not know why after all this time with social psychology research determining the Islamic/Muslim culture are responsible as it has been from the seventh century for delivering terror against Other via the Islamic/Muslim codex (genetic propensity (epigenetics), (con) textual authority and exemplar (messianic) templates) constructing the cultural "categorisation engines" regards Other and women which lead inexorably to a state of being which informs the complete opposite of 'freedom' based upon Others definition and terror in humanities streets being delivered by Muslim youth and adults.